As Russia and Ukraine pound each other on the battlefield, there’s a showdown happening in Kyiv between a young tech wizard and an older battle-hardened general. 

What might  battle tell us about the direction of the war in Ukraine? 

Host Mary Louise Kelly is joined by NPR Russia Correspondent Charles Maynes and NPR National Security Correspondent Greg Myre to talk about the recent turmoil among Ukraine’s military leaders, how the Kremlin is viewing the shakeup and whether Russia’s relationship with the United States has changed.

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